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on his nomination for secretary of defense. one topic sure to come up is israel, which just launched an air strike in syria that u.s. officials say targeted a convoy of russian-made weapons that were headed for lebanon. now russia, the arab league, and hezbollah are all condemning the action. >>> and the new chairman of the senate foreign relations committee pays back $60,000 to a donor for airplane rides. and that donor is under investigation by the fbi. much more on a stranger sorry surrounding senator bob menen z menendez. good morning from washington. it's thursday, january 31st, 2013. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. now less than 30 minutes away from the start of chuck hagel's confirmation hearing to become the next secretary of defense. we'll take you there live for his opening statement, along with what's expected to be some tough questioning from some big-name republicans. let's get right to my first read of the morning. let's start with the hagel confirmation grilling. could be the most contentious nomination hear of the president's second term and frankly, of

senator chuck hagel to be secretary of defense. before i begin, i want to first welcome senator inhofe as the new ranking republican on our committee, succeeding senator mccain. senator mccain has been a great partner over the past six years, and i thank him for all the work he has done to get bills enacted, his leadership on a host of issues, his support for the work of this committee, and for always keeping our hearings likely. -- lively. senator inhofe has shown his strong commitment to the national defense over his 20 years on this committee. and i know that we are going to work well together and continue the bipartisan tradition of the committee. we are also pleased to welcome the eight senators who are joining the committee this year, both of those who are new to the senate and those who are new to our committee. senators donnelly, hirono, kaine, and king on the democratic side, and senators blunt, cruz, fischer, and lee on the republican side. you will all find that this is a wonderful committee where we work across party lines to support our troops and their families, and their

to consider the nomination of former senator chuck hagel to be secretary of defense. before i begin, i want to first will come senator inhofe as the new ranking republican on our committee, succeeding senator mccain. senator mccain has been a great partner over the past six years, and i thank him for all the work he has done to get bills enacted, his leadership on a host of issues, his support for the work of this committee, and for always keeping our hearings likely. senator inhofe has shown his strong commitment to the national defense over his 20 years on this committee. and i know that we are going to work well together and continue the bipartisan tradition of the committee. we are also pleased to welcome the eight senators who are joining the committee this year, both of those who are new to the senate and those who are new to our committee. senators donnelly, hirano, kaine, and king on the democratic side, and senators blunt, cruz, fischer, and lee on the republican side. you will all find that this is a wonderful committee where we work across party lines to support our troops and th

secretary of defense. >> when he takes office, the first challenge he has is he'll be in the middle of the sequester fight meaning an automatic across-the-board cut for the defense budget and every other federal budget that is supposed to happen march 1. >> ifill: and we look at the big money groups supporting and attacking hagel's nomination. >> woodruff: we have two takes onhe war in mali, an on-the- ground report from the newly liberated town of gao... >> ifill: ...and an update on the destruction of ancient manuscripts in the fabled city of timbuktu. >> woodruff: and we close with the story of a soldier who underwent a successful rare double arm transplant, after losing all of his limbs in the iraq war. >> i hated not having arms. i was all right with not having legs. not having arms takes so much away from you out of even your personality. >> woodruff: that's all ahead on tonight's newshour. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> viking river cruises. >> bnsf railway. >> and by the bill and melinda gates foundation. dedicated to the idea that all people

hagel. the president's choice to succeed leon panetta as the next secretary of defense. hagel faces questions from the 26-member panel and at least three republicans on this committee have already said they won't support him including the ranking senator james inhofe. he made that clear in his opening statement. now it is extremely rare for presidential nominees not to be confirmed, are and are senator dick durbin, the senate whip, said all 55 members of the senate democratic caucus will vote for him. so, in order to break the filibuster, he'd need the support of just five republicans. and one republican senator, thad cochrane, has expressed his support. let's bring in "time" magazine's assistant med tore and "washington post" columnist and msnbc contributor. we've already gotten a little preview as we heard from inhofe what some of the discussion is going to be about. what are you looking for here, e.j.? >> first of all, i think hagel is actually in pretty good shape. i think a critical event in this whole battle was when he met with senator chuck schumer and schumer gave his bless

to come tonight, the challenges ahead for a new defense secretary; war ravages mali, and destroys part of its cultural heritage; plus, a rare double arm transplant. but first, the other news of the day. here's hari sreenivasan. >> sreenivasan: a federal judge in new orleans gave the go-ahead today to a settlement with b.p. in the 2010 gulf oil disaster. the company agreed to plead guilty to manslaughter and other charges and to pay a record $4 billion in criminal penalties. the gulf disaster began with an oil rig explosion that killed 11 people. before the well was finally sealed, it spewed more than 200 million gallons of oil into the sea. senator john kerry of massachusetts was confirmed today to be secretary of state. the vote was 94-3, as the five- term democrat won the overwhelming approval of his colleagues. kerry is 69, and a former democratic presidential nominee. senators from both sides praised him in a rare show of bipartisan support. john has already built strong relationships with leaders across the world. which will allow him to step seamlessly into the role of secretary

that goes on occasionally, e.j., when we see confirmation of defense secretary, whether or not combat experience makes you better at this. he is obviously a decorated vietnam veteran. but i'm wondering how that will inform how he answers these questions today and what kind of defense secretary he would be. >> first of all, i want to say something. his views aren't extreme and chuck schumer would not endorse somebody, his views on foreign policy are middle of the road. he wouldn't endorse somebody who was extreme. i think his vietnam experience is important. it's been noted and it's important that you now have at state john kerry and you would have at defense chuck hagel, two veterans of vietnam who look back and say we are ib clind to be very cautious before we commit american lives to any kind of foreign intervention. we want to be able to tell the troops. and hagel has characterized himself as an old sergeant, wants to tell the truth, so we need to make this fight. i think the good thing this hearing if it went there instead of just kind of particular attacks or questions to hagel,

to become the nation's defense secretary. the vietnam vet will testify before the senate armed services committee in just about 30 minutes. he won't have an easy time of it. critics painted hagel as anti-israel, homophobic and way too weak on iran. there have been even anti-hagel ads paid for by anonymous donors. >> while president obama says all options are on the table for preventing a nuclear iran, hagel says military action is not a viable, feasible, responsible option. >> chris lawrence is at the pentagon and chris hagel was also accused of wanting to gut the defense department so what kind of day do you think is on tap for him? >> carol, it's likely to be a pretty rough one. with avenue got word from insiders haguele is going to testify that the militant group hezbollah is a terrorist organization and that military options are on the table for iran. it's not earth-shattering, except when you compare it to what he's already said. chuck hagel's past is about to come roaring back at him. >> good morning, guys, how are you. >> reporter: how he's voted, what he said. >> he has insisted

senator chuck hagel. why his pick for defense secretary could face a confirmation fight. >>> a health concern you need to know about. ground beef being recalled because it could be carrying salmonella. we'll have the details. patti ann: right now a food recall you need to know about. the fda issuing a warning about ground beef at the center after salmonella outbreak. rick folbaum has all the details from the breaking news desk. hi, rick. >> the cdc has been able to link this outbreak to two different businesses in the state of michigan. so far 16 people in five different states have gotten sick. this is a form of salmonella that can lead to severe diarrhea and fever and cramps. it is usually called by eating raw or undercooked beef and seven of the people who got sick all reported eating at the same restaurant beforehand. the two beef distributors involved, one of them is in troy, michigan, the other in sterling heights. both recalled about 500 pounds of beef each. the products involved were sold in supermarkets and as well as to restaurants. make sure if you have any ground beef in y

or lower defense spending but the fact is numbers are what they are. the economy is contracting. layoffs are at far too high a level. if you dig into today's report, in december the holiday period our spending in america went up only .2%. a deteriorating economy, bill. bill: that is paltry. the gdp number, help me understand because they explain the drop-off with cuts to defense spending, right? if that is the case, is it only federal spending that is keeping us going in any direction? >> hold on a second. there is always an excuse. over the past four years whenever the economy has turned sour there has been an excuse. the japanese tsunami. the egyptian arab spring, the europeans, trouble in japan, the republicans, the downgrade, hurricane sandy. drop-off in defense spending. there is always an excuse. the fact is, we have never achieved a robust expansion since the end of the recession. now this latest go round yesterday when the economy showed to be contracting it was blamed on lower defense spending. it was blamed on the hurricane sandy. but the fact is, we have not motivated, not inv

>> greta: the prosecution rested it's case against jody arias. defense lawyers will begin presenting their case january 29th. what is their strategy? >> jody arias killed. there is no question about it. the million dollar question is what would have forced her to do it? and throughout this trial you will hear that she was indeed forced. >> greta: arias is claiming self-defense, claiming alexander psychologically and sexually abused arias. but self-defense was the third version of what happened the night that have brutal shower murder. the dpeens has a long road ahead. we're going to keep you updated tlult throughout the trial. make sure you go gretawire.com. let us know what you thought about this special edition of on the record. good night from washington. thr, starts in two seconds now. >> tonight on huckabee, he helplessly watched as her parents were killed by a mad man. >> i am mad. >>> and susannah reacts to the ban on assault weapons. >> and libya, algeria mali. no doubt that the algerian terrorist had weapons from libya and no doubt that the malian rements aqim hav

a senate committee. defense secretary nominee chuck hagel spent much of today's confirmation hearing walking back earlier statements that had several of his former colleagues questioning whether he is the right man for the job. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel shows us what happens in what was at times a heated and other times awkward confirmation hearing. >> after two months of public chrissy. over the nomination to be secretary of defense, chuck hagel struggled to reassure senators he's up to the job and not soft on iran. >> i am committed to the president's goal of preventing iran obtaining nuclear weapon. as i have been on record on that issue. as i said in past, many time, all options must be on the table to achieve that goal. >> reporter: shortly after the top committee remember said he would vote no, inhof hit the nominee with this swipe. >> why do you think the arabian foreign ministry supports your nomination to be secretary of defense? >> i have a difficult enough time with american politics, senator, i have no idea. thank you. >> reporter: democrats routinely

and not necessary for the defense. >> nra condemned proposal. gun bans do not work . we are confident that congress will reject senator feinstein wrong handed approach. susana huff aagrees. she say it does nothing to keep minute people safer and she knows first hand what it is like to be in the presence of a mad man with a fire arm. >> i didn't grow nup a house with guns. i don't hunt. but i was given a gun by a friend when i was 21 to carry in my purse for self defense and taught how to use it. a couple of yearrs ago, my parents and i went to a cafeteria in texas on a bright sunny day . we were not in a dark alley. >> that was susaba huff testifying two decades ago. and that bright sunny day was october 16th, 1991 when a man drove his pick up truck through the luby's cafeteria in keileen, texas. >> it took me 45 seconds to realize that this man was not there to commit a robbery or a hit. he was there to simply shoot as many people he could. >> susana did have a gun with her that day. >> when i finally realized i thought i got him and i reached for my purse. he was 12 feet away . you know, is it po

the withdrawal from afghanistan is going to mean. how things are going in north africa, cuts in the defense budget. women in combat. the president's doing a lot in the foreign defense policy. in his first term, he was more moderate, he stayed in the center, he kept bob gates and general petraeus and leon panet a. now he has a doveish agend a. hillary clinton he was more hawkish than john kerry will be. i am worried personally for four years of the new obama team in national security. >> reporter: >> geraldo: you know, in that regard, i don't want to be a conspiracy theororrist, but let's review this week, on wednesday, he had hillary clinton, absolutely on the ropes, getting pounded over benghazi-gate, showing sound bites from the senators, grilling her, particular loo ron johnson from wisconsin. the very next day, you have the pentagon announcing that women will be in combat roles on the front line. nobody's talking about benghazi. they are talking about j.-- g.i. jane. is the obama administration that slick to erase the benghazi controversy by playing a card that doesn't even take effect

of revenge would be exacted upon those who perpetrated it. here's what defense secretary leon panetta told me what he would do against al qaeda in mali. >> we've got to go after al qaeda wherever the hell they're at. and make sure they find no place to hide. because let's not forget the main goal of al qaeda is to attack the united states. we've got to go after them. in yemen, in somalia, and yes, in mali if necessarily. >> he says, go after wherever the hell they're at, whether that be yemen, somalia, or mali. jay carney though from the white house, really much more tentati tentative. here's what he said just this week. >> wear working with france and support their effort in mali. and believe that the goal of preventing terrorists safe haven is an important one. >> general clark, going after al qaeda wherever the hell they're at is very different than, we are working with france. >> well, not necessarily, erin. first of all, we have the africa command there, they're working very closely with french counterparts and british counterparts who are part of this. obviously the intelligence communi

. that's it for me. now to washington to my friend wolf blitzer. >> >>> a very tough day for defense secretary chuck hagel. >>> also, an unfolding scandal involving a united states senator denying allegations of prostitution and free plane trips. >>> eight "new york times" reveals its been under attacks for months by someone in china. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." we were bracing for fireworks at today's confirmation hearing for defense secretary nominee chuck hagel but it actually turned out to be even a lot tougher than many of us expected. republicans grilled hagel raising serious questions about his past statements and positions, especially about israel and iran. at times, hagel seemed to struggle to answer some of those tough questions and other times he gave answers he later had to clarify. let's go to our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin. jessica, it was a tough, tough day for chuck hagel? >> reporter: so far it has been, wolf. chuck was battered by republicans, forcing some stumbles and bruising. so far, no knockout blow but the day of questi

. yesterday chuck hagel had a rough first day. he would like to be our next secretary of defense. his appearance was rambling. he was stapl pherg. "the new york daily news" this morning writes whatever president obama sees in chuck hagel, it was largely invisible as he faced his former colleagues. if you missed the testimony, we had it largely here on the channel yesterday. here he is tangling with john mccain over the troop surge in iraq which mr. hagel opposed. >> if you would like me to explain why -- >> i actually would like an answer. yes or no? >> i'm not going to give you a yes or no. i think it's far more complicated that, as i've said. my answer is i'll defer that judgment to history. >> i think history has already made a judgment about the surge, sir, and you're on the wrong side of it. >> do i think it is right that israel was committing a, quote, sickening slaughter as you said on the floor of the senate? >> i would like to read all of it, what i said. first, i said many, many times, senator, every nation has a right to defend itself. >> do you think a sickening slaughter

're not hunting weapons. they're not necessary for defense wednesday, why do we have them? >> the n.r.a. condemned the proposal saying and i quote, american people know gun bans do not work and we're confident that congress will reject senator feinstein's wrong-headed approach. suzanna hupp agrees, gun control for 20 years and says it it does nothing to keep innocent people safer and she knows firsthand what it's like to be in the presence of a madman with a firearm. >> i didn't grow up in a house with guns, i don't hunt. i personally abhor hunting, and i was given a gun when i was 21 to carry in my purse for defense and taught how to use it. a couple of years ago, my parents and i went on a sunny day, we weren't in a dark alley. >> she was testifying at a u.s. hearing almost two decades ago. that was october 16th, 1991 when a man drove his pickup truck through the window of luby's cafeteria in killeen, texas and began firing. >> it took me a good 45 seconds to realize that this person wasn't there to commit a robbery, he wasn't there for a hit. he was there to shoot as many people as possible as

appointed that he is becoming the top defense appropriators. he had said very recently that he did not think sequester would be averted. it does not look currently where these parties are that they are close to any kind of a deal. they may try to find a way to kick the can down the road where they bought themselves 60 days. it does not look particularly good right now. very few people seem to be confronting that. it shall take a lot to pull this off. >> the pentagon has started to take steps to prepare itself for the sequestration and planning that has not taken place until now. >> they are laying off temporary employees. it is starting to happen. >> senator inhofe has been critical about not planning earlier. the >> there is a little brinkmanship going. i do believe there was a time and when each everybody said we are all against it so how can have them? there never was a path that the two sides could find that would lead them to averting it. >> the center was critical of the president in the stance of his overall military and mention three ways the president has worked for cuts, and delays

: a rough road for president obama's pick to lead our department of defense. why political watchers are saying that chuck hagel's confirmation at this hearing was an absolute mess. so what is going to happen with this? we'll be right back with senator blount. >> iranian foreign ministry so strongly supports your nomination to be the secretary of defense? >> i have a difficult enough time with american politics. senator, i have no idea, but thank you an ] ring. ring. progresso. i just served my mother-in-law your chicken noodle soup but she loved it so much... i told her it was homemade. everyone tells a little white lie now and then. but now she wants my recipe [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she? [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. two. three. my credit card rewards are easy to remember with the bankamericard cash rewards credit card. earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. [ both ] 2% back on groceries. [ all ] 3% on gas. no hoops to jump through. i earn more cash back on the things i buy the most. [ woman ] it's as easy as... on

solution, and this is where the united states has talked about smart power that's not just defense and diplomacy but also includes economic development. and that's really the key in trying to deal with the intense poverty and sense of need and desperation in this large and strategically located african nation. i was in bamaco in the 1990s during the first visit of the secretary of state and the great question was mali as a model for africa, could you have democracy endure in a country which doesn't have much of a middle class, where poverty is so rampant and doesn't have a whole lot of outside aid to help it develop. and so the great question is not just how many resources are devoted right now to get rid of the jihadists, extremists, marginalize, recapture the north, allow for democratic elections to put back a representative government, but what do you do, what does the outside world do to create a viable state and stabilize -- create a model all over again in this region now of deep instability? >> the outside world can't ever do that in my view. i don't think it's ever succeed

. the president has nominated someone for secretary of defense. we all will meet with him and his hearing will be next week he was part of a group called global 0. for those that care about our nuclear arsenal, some of the things that brought offered in this report are disconcerting. typically, the defense department presses for weaponry and making our country is safe. the state department presses for nuclear arms agreements and reductions. in the event this person is confirmed, that balance will not be there. you and i spent a lot of time on the treaty. you let me be involved in the ratification. i am wondering if there is something you might say to me in that sees our future in a way with that combination of these two people, something you can say to assure me about our nuclear posture in the future and the role he will play in that regard. >> absolutely. i know chuck hagel. i think he is a strong, patriotic former senator and he will be a strong secretary of defense. i have dealt with him and and number of forays. he has been head of the atlantic council, some of the things and efforts

, the consulate cannot stand a sustained attack on the consulate. why wasn't the department of defense assets there? seven hours that went on. >> some of those questions were answered -- >> what's that? >> some of the questions have come out of pentagon and have been answered about why it took so long. >> actually not satisfactory. how on september 11th, of all days, with all these warnings didn't we have assets there for seven hours to -- there's so many questions that -- >> so this is not over in your mind at all, not over. >> what did the president do during this period of time? there's two movies been made about getting bin laden with every ticktock of heavy minute. we still don't know what the president was doing, but more importantly, martha, more importantly than that, very quickly, is what's happening all over north africa? what's happening in the middle east? things are deteriorating in a rapid fashion, and it's because of a lack of american leadership. >> deteriorating certainly in north africa. a lot of presence of al qaeda. >> iraq, syria. >> let's go to syria and talk about syria

with democrats and republicans in congress to put the budget on a path to balance and saved defense. i think the sequester is going to happen because that $1.2 trillion in spending cuts, we can't lose those spending cuts. and don't for get one other thing. i wrote legislation and passed it in the house twice to replace those sequesters with cuts in other areas of government. we have shown how to protect defense spending by cutting spending in other areas. in our budget last year, we did take money out of defense. just not nearly as much as the president seems to want to. but we think the sequesters will happen because the democrats have opposed our efforts to replace those cuts with others and offered no alternatives. >> is this worth shutting the government down over? >> no one is talking about shutting the government down. >> well, it's a piece of the leverage that conservatives have. you didn't want to fight over the debt ceiling because you thought you can't do tha you have to pay the government's bills. do you think this fight over priority is worth shutting the government down? >> we'r

. but with the stroke of a pen, last week, outgoing defense secretary leon panetta made it official -- women can serve alongside men on the front liance. some opponents say this could lead to problems with unit cohesion and combat readiness. >> my issue here is, mixing the genderses in infantry units and armored units and special forces units is not a positive. there are many distracters which puts a burden on the small unit combat leaders and actually creates an environment because of their living conditions that is not conducive to readiness. >> reporter: others claim women suffer more combat casualties than illnesses and pregnancy is an issue. to senator john mccain, it's equal standards for certain demanding jobs. >> i think women are obviously -- are prepared to serve side by side with men in combat. i just want to emphasize, though, there should be the same physical and mental standards for anyone to perform certain roles and functions in the military. >> reporter: many say it's a question of equal rights and serving in combat allows a soldier to advance through the ranks, farther and faster. >>

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of defense after world war ii. in 1946, james forest all noted in his diary that the soviets believed that the post-war world should be shaped by a handful of major powers acting alone but he went on the american point of view is that all nations professing a desire for peace and democracy should participate and what ended up happening in the years since his something in between or. the united states and our allies succeeded in constructing a broad international architecture of alliances chiefly the u.n. the imf the world bank and nato that protected our interest and benefited people and nations around the world. yet it is undeniable that a handful of major powers did end up controlling those institutions, setting norms and shaping international affairs. now two decades after the end of the cold war, we faced a different world. more countries than ever have a voice in global debates. we see more paths to power opening up as nations gain influence to the strength of their economies rather than their militaries are going political and technological changes are empowering nonstate actors

there with the defense. it is because we are united and committed to do whatever is required to fulfill the missions we have assumed as public officials and public servants. so next week, i would expect that all of you will be as focused and dedicated for secretary kerry as you have been for me, and that you will continue to serve president obama and our nation with the same level of professionalism and commitment that i have seen firsthand. on a personal basis, let me wish all of you the very best, whether you have been here all week, or 30, or even 40 years, pat. [laughter] let me give you the very best wishes that i can, because i am proud to have been a part of you. i'll be thinking of the nearly 70,000 people thought -- i leave it thinking of the nearly 70,000 people that i was honored to serve and leave as part of a huge extended family, and i hope that you will continue to make yourselves, make me, and make our country proud. thank you all, and god bless you. [cheers and applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] >>

as a result. kt mcfarland, deputy secretary of defense for president reagan, fox news analyst today among other things. good morning to you. last night on "60 minutes" we were told what about the state of egypt and how they're doing today? >> the president claimed it is one of the great successes and credited hillary clinton with the great success of the arab spring. i think they will really regret saying those words a year or two from now because i'm not optimistic what happens next in egypt. bill: tell me why we care. this is a big country. tens of millions of people right there in the heart of northern africa and the middle east. >> we care for a couple of reasons but primarily it is because as go egypt so goes the region. egypt is the largest country, the biggest history, the country every other country in the region looks to set the pace. if egypt is being run by the muslim brotherhood, muslim brotherhood which talks about abrogating the peace treaty with israelings talks about still one of their leading people talks about christians and jews as being pigs and descended from apes, if

for forever secretary of defense after world war ii. in 1946 james forrestal noted in his diary that the soviets believed that the post-war world should be shaped by a handful of major power acting alone. plessy went on, the american point of view is that all nations professing a desire for peace and democracy should participate. and what ended up happening in the years is something in between. the united states and our allies succeeded in constructing a broad international architecture of institutions and alliances chiefly the u.n., the imf the world bank and nato that protected our interests, defending universal values and benefited peoples and nations around the world. yet it is undeniable that a handful of major powers did end up controlling those institutions combat setting norms and shaping international affairs. now two decades after the end of the cold war, we faced a different world. more countries than ever have a voice in global debate. we see more passed power opening up as nations gain influence through the strength of their economies rather than their military and

and talking about further cuts in the defense budget pursuing larger missions in, of all places, north africa. >> well, i think we need to prevent the spread of terrorism to north africa because as we learned in afghanistan. lou: it is too late. >> no pomade is not. lou: it is there. >> but you cannot prove it. it takes persistence and patience. that is what people wonder. lou: winning in afghanistan. within six months of our forces principally covert entering afghanistan in the wake of september 11th we one. >> right. it is what they do afterwards. >> but there has to be a difference. you have to draw a distinction between a counter-terrorism policy which this administration has in the counterinsurgency policy. that is preventing these people from getting land on which they can mount attacks. lou: your view on this? counterinsurgency, counter-terrorism, you know, frankly, i know i am being simplistic year and routed squarely in the way of simplistic outlook. the fact of the matter is, as an american, i am not interested in counter-terrorism, counterinsurgency. i am only interested in our int

rule for women. >> defense secretary leon panetta, joined by the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general martin dempsey, announced this week an end to the 1-year 1994 prohibition that excludes military women from military combat. in so doing, the u.s. joins other western countries, germany, italy, canada, denmark, finland, norway, sweden, serbia, switzerland, israel, even new zealand, already allow women in combat roles and frontline positions. out of the more than 6,400 total americans killed in iraq and afghanistan, at least 130 american women have been killed in the line of fire. and the number of american women wounded is over 800. soon, women will be able to fight back on the front lines and in elite special forces, but women will have to meet the same strength standards as men if they choose a combat role. senator john mccain, vietnam war hero, and tortured as a prisoner of war, favors the women in combat role. but adds this. "it is critical that we maintain the same high standards that have made the american military the most feared and admired fighting force in the world

was a journalist. i did not believe i could lead to someone's defense and lead to the others defense but if i ask a question i want an answer. this is my style. i went through this thing when i was first chosen, thinking, i am not george stephanopoulos, but i was chosen for who i am and i was chosen for whatever body of work and have that i am proud of and i felt that -- the only thing i would say is different, i spent a lot of time on the questions. i crammed my head as much as i could and remembered things, but to me, i did what pointed questions and i wanted answers. we all have interviewed public figures and usually get 20 minutes and 18 minutes and you don't want to hound them over one topical item -- you cannot help but be part of this. you are looked at because of the questions you ask and what you contribute in the wake of that debate. >> there is another question having to do with the moderator's, and that was this business of, the political party is getting an answer to the question, what is the sistine mets going to be devoted to? devoted to economics or foreign policy, iraq and iran,

concerned of the fact that we are trying to nominate the secretary of defense for this country but are we dumb attain -- nominating a secretary of defense for the state of israel? i will take your answer off the air. host: that was part of the discussion yesterday. guest: absolutely. there was a lot of time spent on israel yesterday. it is a huge foreign-policy issue for the. they happen to be in the middle of an environment that is unsettled and without clear paths forward. it is a core interest of the united states. again, it is a scenario where politicians feel strongly and american voters feel extremely strongly. there were some differences of opinion but got explored yesterday. again, that is part of the point of the hearing process -- of a confirmation progress -- process, getting into areas where people have concerns. host: one of the exchanges about israel, democrat from rhode island. >> interviews and speeches, i have always said i am a supporter of israel. in some cases, i have said a -- i am a strong supporter. i think it is in my book that we have a special relationship with i

come together. and i think it can happen. i really do. >> last december we did the defense authorization bill. we dispensed with 380 amendments and we went forward and we did the right thing. i am, guardedly optimistic we will do, we -- >> we did that bill and postal reform toward the end of last year. it was little-noticed but there were a number of important and complicated pieces of legislation, that didn't pass the house, most of them. the defense did, that got through the senate with good bipartisan support. >> senator mccain do you buy the pendulum idea that it reached its nadir, right at the bottom and reached its worst point and is getting better? >> i do. i do. maybe i'm wrong. maybe that's not the case. but i think as chuck just mentioned we've sown we can make certain progress in other areas and i think historians who study the senate, as boring as this might be, will look back on this aversion of this nuclear option because, if it had happened and it was going to happen unless we had come up with this road map for the leaders, maybe that is sound a little egotis

in seriousness and sophistication. >> you mentioned civilian space. there is defense space, the government space than dot com and dot org. that is the civilian space and the overwhelming majority of space. a lot of our temperature is operated by the private sector -- a lot of our infrastructure is operated by the private sector. homeland has jurisdiction uniquely where the pentagon does not. or the nro doesn't over this civilian space. homeland have to be a major player. yet many in the private sector have been saying that homeland does not have the competence to do this job well. do you agree with that? >> no. [laughter] >> that is what is called a delay -- leading cancer. -- that is what we call a leading answer. perception need to catch up with reality. the department has moved light years ahead. president obama has continued to ask congress for the resources we need to do that. women talk about the interaction with the private-sector, which we do in a number of areas already -- when we talk about the interaction with the private sector, which we do in a number of areas already, the part that

, and then look at defense spending and government spending, do a series of things to get the country on a better trajectory. when those people say that, there's very few people supporting an mp. even though an overwhelming majority of the country feels that way, it is typical it -- they are typically not actively engaged in supporting members of congress to take that position. members of congress should do what is in the best interest of the country. they should not look at their support systems to help them make decisions. unfortunately, at least in the past, many of them have done that. that is a structural flaw that we need to deal with as a country. if we need to create more support for people who serve in office who take the balance, moderate positions and tried to get things done. right now the incentives on all wrong. i am very sensitive to the position you put forth, you are upset with government. i am too. government has not done what we needed to do to help advance the interests abroad number of american citizens. that's one of the things i want to congress. i think you're getting at t

committee chairman paul ryan says the sequester which will cut about 1.2 trillion in domestic and defense spending over the years will happen because they haven't offered gop alternative proposals. congress passed a stopgap spending bill by 2027. >> we are more than happy to keep spending at those levels going on into the future while we debate how to balance the budge, how to grow the economy, how to create opportunity. that's the kind of debate the country deserves. by the way, if we keep going down this path, we will have a debt crisis. it's not an if question, it's a when question. >> joining us now is tony fratto, former treasury secretary, he's in paris this morning. tony, what brings you to paris? >> i have some meetings here on my way back from davos, kelly. we missed you in davos with the rest of the team there. >> i know. i wonder if they didn't send you over there to try and get a read as to why the french wanted the british to leave the eu or something. >> i'll take some informal polling on the street. >> could you please, we appreciate that. in the meantime, let's talk about

. they are the most popular guns for hunting, target shooting, self-defense. despite this fact, congress banned the manufacture and sale of hundreds of semi-automatic firearms and magazines from 1994 to 2004. in independent studies including one from the clinton justice department proved it had no impact on lowering crime. when it comes to background checks, be honest. background checks will never be universal because criminals will never submit to them. >> dana bash is following the hearings on capitol hill and joins us live. no matter which way you fall on the gun issue, you cannot deny the moment. when gabrielle giffords enters the room and testifies, wherever she goes, people stop, they watch and they listen. describe for us what was that like when she entered the room to testify? >> pretty much exactly the way you described it. even people who disagree with her position, the reason she was here which is to argue for what she calls responsible curbs on gun rights, everybody was just in awe of the fact that she is able to walk, clearly with assistance. she's able to talk though it is very ha

today. former prosecutor fred tecce and former defense attorney arthur eye call aidala. they admitted no biases toward any beer companies but maybe some experience drinking -- [laughter] some of these. so, arthur, does the government have a case here? >> well, they're not going to get thrown out of court, let's start out that way. there's a lot of elements the government would have to prove here, but without getting too deep into the weeds, what they really have to prove is it's going to so adversely effect americans that you can't just have this, basically, one beer company that's going to be able to set the prices, set who gets what beer and what city, what state, what up to. the best example was, and this is an extreme example, but they would not allow at&t to buy t-mobile. now, there's very few wireless carriers, but they did not want to just have one mother company controlling everything. jenna: okay. so cell phones is something, though, that a lot of american families use, fred, right? now, beer, i know some of our viewers might argue with me, but it's not like it's milk, you kn

defense. that probably hurt him. i do not think at that time he was ahead. one of the things i base this on, i started out that debate asking him a pretty pointed question about benghazi. republicans were really criticizing the president for this. this was a place where if governor romney really wanted to take on the president, he could have done it. he just sort of skipped by that question and went on to something else. i think he was afraid he did not want to appear overly aggressive and i think that was probably a mistake on his part. >> the reverse was true. obama for the first debate. he thought he was a hit and thought he could coast and he paid a price for it. >> yes, please. >> i am a washington d.c. resident. my question is for mr. schieffer. considering what you discussed about how most americans are watching news that is tailored to their political views and candidates are going on those news shows, this is one of the only opportunities for those 60 million americans to see a candidate willing to challenge them. do you think that changes the role the moderator plays in th

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